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Tuesday, 15 October 2019

NEW INTERVIEW: Interview with BLACK MASS (Black Metal community organization), 15 May 2019.

Our interview with Jurex and Koko of Black Mass Community Organization, Bandung
Date: Wednesday, 15 May 2019.
Translation: By Teguh Prasetyo.

Teguh Prasetyo (Interfectorment / Digging Up): Tell us about the history of the Black Mass…

Jurex (Band ov Prophet): In 1995, Black Metal music was becoming bigger because of the legendary place Saparua. This place had so many BM gigs. It is a legendary music venue in Bandung. There were three central main figures in BM at that time: (1-2) Abu and Ade from Hellgods; and (3) Agus from Sacrilegious. They were the people that began the BM community in 1995. Because a lot of BM people hang out together so we start to hang out temporarily at Adi’s house. The community became bigger so we moved the place to Yogya Kepatihan Road (mall). We basically hang out in the front of the mall. So we did not expect the community to become that big. It happened because we started hanging out together every weekend and began sharing about BM on Sundays. We normally went to gigs and so it became bigger and bigger. There was no specific place where we were born, such as Ujung Berung. The people were from every part of Bandung.

Kieran James (Busuk Chronicles): What was the first BM album in Bandung?

Koko: Hellgods – When the Forest Become my Kingdom (1997).

KJ: So, keep going with the history…

Jurex: At this time the first generation of BM in Bandung emerged.

Koko: Especially when the Hellgods song “Kabut Keabadian” went into the metal compilation Metalik Klinik. It became the role model for BM in Indonesia. Metalik Klinik was the first major compilation album in Indonesia. That was the first time that all genres of metal got major attention from the public. And also Black Mass made the first BM compilation in 1996. That was under the name of Black Mass and Dark Banner Records.

KJ: What was the relationship between BM and DM community at this time?

Jurex: We became friends because usually we meet together at the gigs. Sacrilegious was BM from Ujung Berung.

Koko: The Sacrilegious demo Lucifer’s Name be Prayed was released in 1998.

KJ: So there was no conflict between the communities?

Teguh: No conflict. Around 2011, the case was not many BM bands were active. This is why there were not many BM bands playing at festivals. It is not because of conflict between the communities.

Jurex: The spreading of BM is a little bit hard because of the lack of information. We were just buying tapes and reading magazines. We were borrowing each other’s stuff because it was expensive.

KJ: What were the most popular bands from overseas?

Koko: Cradle. There is a stereotype in the 1990s that Bandung bands sound like Cradle and East Java bands sound like Marduk.

KJ: Who were the first BM bands in East Java and Jakarta?

Koko: Dry [Surabaya] and Ritual Orchestra [Malang]. After the first BM compilation, Blacker than Darkness, there was a small setback in the movement. One of the tabloid newspapers, Adil, was using the BM band picture of Ade and Abu from Hellgods, The headline was: Bangkitnya Para Pemuja Setan (“The awakening of the Satanists”). After that, there was another review from another major newspaper which talked about this. Because of this, there was a lot of reaction from outsiders. We got hate from a lot of people around us. It was just people talking behind other people’s backs. For example, when Abu went to college there was the whispering: “Look, there is the Satanist.” At that time, it was still taboo to be talking about these types of things – religion, pentagram.
From that opposition, there was later a positive impact because people were learning that there was this type of music in the society. We had some limitations about expressing ourselves because the society began to understand what the community was wearing. The setback was not because bands were inactive but because there was too much pressure from the outside people. Nowadays, we will think it cool and funny if people say that we are a Satanist. Back then it was dangerous. But it was not true, just a gimmick [i.e. the Satanism].

KJ: How is the community in recent times?

Koko: In 2010, the people in the community wanted to make the community active again. We made a show in the Rock Café. The show was called Blackness Rebirth. After that, we started to hang out again weekly at Gasibu. We started to make an event and collaboration with another community – Grinding Punk Corporation. And the gig was called Bohemian versus Borjuis. The punk bands will play BM songs and the BM bands will play punk songs. There is a close connection between BM and punk so the gig was easy to make (Sunday, 20 June 2010 @ Score Ciwalk, Bandung). Bands: The Cruel, Sedusa, Bloodgush, Disaster, Hellgods, Haze, Divine Blackness, and Demonstorm.
After this, we made continuous gigs with other communities such as Grind Ultimatum. After this, there is a domino effect. Another BM community in another city wanted to join Black Mass. So Black Mass wanted to make a community chapter in other cities. At first it was called Black Mass: Blacker than Darkness Bandung. Now it is called Black Mass: Blacker than Darkness in Indonesia.
 
KJ: What happened about Warkvlt and Impish?

Koko: Impish is an old band from the community. Impish was already made by the community. Abah joined and they made an album called Warkvlt. But then Abah wanted to separate from the name because Impish was a community name. He made the band based on the album title Warkvlt. The old Impish members then reformed as Impish and made the album Eat Your Gods. Warkvlt is more like War Metal but Impish is more necro-punk such as Impaled Nazarene.

KJ: Was there some friction between BM Bogor and BM Bandung?

Koko: There is no friction. At our last show Bogor bands played, Ririwa and Dark on Rust. Officially there is another chapter of Black Mass from Banten. Another city will follow. We already have an agenda for it.

KJ: How many people in the community in Bandung?

Koko: There is no official counting of it. It is more than 50. Everyone is free to join. In the old times there were more than 135. In the past we did not have a mission. We just hung out and sharing. Now we have a mission to make people understand BM because there is so much misunderstanding about this genre.

KJ: How do you compare Bandung BM to East Java?

Koko: Basically they are the same because all people in the communities are connected. Bandung people come to East Java and East Java people come to Bandung.

KJ: What do you think about people leaving Black Mass to become more Islamic?

Koko: It is not much, fewer than five or ten people. I almost do it but I’m back [laughs].

Teguh: Back to the darkness.

KJ: What is Adi doing now?

Koko: Lost contact, the last communication we had was that Adi made two pictures, one on the stage and secondly using religious outfit. After that we lost contact.

KJ: Did Adi go to study at the Islamic school?

Koko: Not in the formal school but there was a community.

KJ: Salafi?

Koko: No, Tablighi Jamaat – they do preaching from one place to another (tour).

KJ: Have you got any message for the audience?

Jurex: Keep learning without limits especially about Black Metal. BM is growing and everything is changing.

Koko: Stay close to the roots.

KJ: Why do you like Black Metal?

Koko: It is basically because I first found BM music from Metalik Klinik. I connected to the music as I had a critical way of thinking about ideology. BM became my platform to showcase my views.

Jurex: At first I listened to BM music. BM is evolving so it means more to me.

Koko: I first listened to Iron Maiden, Powerslave album.

KJ: Does BM have a message for Indonesian society?

Koko: Don’t judge us before you know us. We cannot be following the Norway people 100% because we have a different culture. We adapt the music.

*****THE END*****

Wednesday, 21 October 2015

CLASSIC INTERVIEW: Our first interview with WARKVLT (Bandung Black Metal), 21/11/2011


Left to Right: Abah "Desecrator" Supriyanto (WARKVLT), John Yoedi, Kieran James, Koko and Adi (Blackmass), and Bobby Rock (BLEEDING CORPSE) @ Bandung, 4/4/2012
My interview with Abah Desecrator (guitarist) of IMPISH / now WARKVLT (Bandung, Indonesia black-metal)
“Once in the black-metal festival we did the show in early December, 15 of 20 bands are DIMMU and CRADLE based...what a boring situation!!” – Abah Desecrator of IMPISH
By Dr Kieran James
Email Interview, 21 December 2011
IMPISH is: Sigit Abaddon (vocal), Sabach Blashryk "Impisher'' (guitar/bass), Abah "Desecrator" Supriyanto (guitar), Ari Bathory, Rian Yans Blasphemy (drums)

Kieran James: Hi, mate. Thanks very much for agree to do interview with our website Busuk Webzine. First we (me and John Yoedi) just interview death-metal bands but we want to move into black-metal. These are the questions:

Bobby Rock and John Yoedi learn BM history from Abah
KJ: First tell us the band history, like when you start and who are the members?

Ahab Desecrator of IMPISH: Hail Dr. Kieran, many thanks for the chance to interview us, I’m Abah Desecrator, guitarist of the band, joined IMPISH in mid 2011, after I quit HELLGODS. The band history so far begun in 1996 formed by Eno/Yono, AW and Deni, they chose the name IMPISH, because IMPISH is meant to be evil-ish and devil-ish [KJ: perfect name for BM band!]. But the band was put on hold in 2000, and resumed activity in 2011 when drummer Riyan Blasphemy decided to reunite with the band [along] with new members.
Now in IMPISH are:
Sigit Abaddon (vocal) (ex-HAZE)
Sabach Blashryk “Impisher” (guitar/bass) (ex-UNSEEN DARKNESS)
Abah “Desecrator” Supriyanto (guitar) (ex-CRUSADE, NEUROTIC OF GODS, HELLGODS, MAELSTROM)
Ari Bathory (ex-HELLGODS)
Rian Yans Blasphemy (drums) (ex-BETON, BLACKJACK)
Our Current Discography so far:
“The Shadows in the Fullmoon” Single 1999 (featured on Blacker than Darkness Vol.2 compilation)
Thy Wrath of Fire EP 2011
“Gerbang Kehancuran” Single 2011
 Pesta Rakyat Hitam Kegelapan Split 2011
The Myst EP 2011
IMPISH is featured on compilations:
 - Blacker than Darkness Vol.2
 - Evilil Demiom pt.2 - Asian Black Metal compilation
- And Metal for All
- Underlist pt.3
 - Lintas Hitam pt.1
- Sajajar Sa perjuangan

KJ: How is progress for your full-length album?

Abah: Currently we’re working on [our] first album, still un-named, and we are in progress to finish some lyrics and musical compositions. Our new songs [are] totally different from our previous songs like “Gerbang Kehancuran” and “Legion ov Kvlt” [with] more direct approach [for] song structure, [as we are] influenced by MARDUK (old) and BELPHEGOR. But the lyrics contain internal spiritual war and tell about humanity questioning the existence of God and war against spiritual life beneath. For example [the] song “The Night of Dark Ravenous Heart” tells about evil which dwells within every man and so on...

KJ: How to describe your style and what bands do you like?

Abah: Our style named Warkvlt Black Metal, We named it because Warkvlt means our themes basically [which are] all about War, internal spiritual war, and ancient war as told by “Legion ov Kvlt” lyrics. “Kvlt” because we want to give the other side of black metal. As you know in Indonesia many black-metal musicians and fans only know just two bands as their main influences: DIMMU BORGIR and CRADLE OF FILTH. Once in the black-metal festival we did the show in early December, 15 of 20 bands [are] DIMMU and CRADLE based...what a boring situation!! So musically our main influences now [are] MARDUK and BELPHEGOR, but we want to make our music more direct and simple like ULVER did in Natten Madrigal album.

Abah with IMMORTAL flag at his house
KJ: Do you believe in the black-metal ideology?

Abah: Black metal ideology for me as a musician is a rebellious expression against so-called trendism in metal music. I admit two [of] our EPs were recorded [with] very bad sound quality just to express "here’s the black metal spirit" as in MAYHEM – Deathcrush (No Core -No Care -No Mosh -No Trends) and DARKTHRONE – A Blaze ... simple songwriting, kvlt sound and sometime people just don’t get it what is black-metal.

For me black-metal is just another expression for what Euronymous did in Deathcrush and none of Norwegian Inner Circle is a Satanist, this is what Varg [Vikernes] said in Until The Light Takes Us, and many liner notes on Lord of Chaos book.

KJ: What are your favourite Indonesian black-metal bands?

Abah: HELLGODS (Bandung), SACRELIGIOUS (Bandung), SANTHET (Malang), RITUAL ORCHESTRA (Malang), MAKAM (Solo), BVRTAN (Svkatani).

KJ: What is the metal scene like in your city including black-metal, death-metal, etc?

Abah: In general [the] metal scene in Bandung is quite good, so many people are into metal, and it [has] become [a] lifestyle wearing metal shirts, and the accessories. [It is] hard to say but in Bandung [it] seems to me [that] black-metal is not accepted as [widely] as death-metal, not as sell out as death-metal because not many people are into black-metal. So it [suffers from] lack of exposure and lack of chances for playing in gigs/shows. I was in HELLGODS, one of best Indonesian black-metal bands. In one year you can count on just one gig played in Bandung, maximum just two shows, you can compare to many death-metal bands. In one year they can play many shows in Bandung.

For us it doesn’t matter but bands are not noted they played in some gigs, but [it is] in their discography, so our aim and focus is to complete our debut album right now.

KJ: It was http://www.metal-archives.com/ that allowed me first to know about JASAD and other Indo metal. Did you anyone from overseas contact you through your band page there?

Abah: I am also member of the forum, I talked and discussed about many music genres, but my main interest is in black-metal, and yes I gained many contacts regarding the Indonesian black-metal scene and so on, but I’m rather ashamed because Indonesian black-metal bands [are] not as good as Indonesian death-metal bands, in their musical concepts, theme, sound, lyrics, etc.

KJ:  What are your plans and goals for the band?

Abah: In IMPISH actually we just want to play simple black-metal, like the old days [i.e. old-school] black-metal, not using additional symphonic keyboards, not too many melodious patterns, just simple musical composition and more straightforward lyrics.

KJ: What city in Indo do you think has the best black-metal scene and why?

Abah: Surabaya is the most notorious black-metal scene in Indonesia, many great bands [are] there named DRY, PEJAH, and THIRSTY BLOOD and also many great fans. The growth and movement of the black-metal scene there [is] supported by many regular shows, organized by event organizers that have open minds like Trendy Bangsat, Under Terror and so on. So many black-metal bands gained [deep] respect there; it’s different [from] Bandung because we don’t gain much respect and attention from local event organizers because of the slogan: “Black-metal has no crowd”. Bogor also is a good city for black-metal, but sadly black-metal and metal scene movement here is supported by someone who wants to be Mayor.

KJ: What is your comment about TANAH KUBUR from Cibinong? We interview the singer of that band here too.

Abah: Oh I know Jamet [TANAH KUBUR], I do have [deep] respect [for] him, one of [the] nice people in black-metal scene and he’s a talented vocalist.

KJ: Last one: Any message or word for your fans?

Abah: “Be trve and stay dark!!!”

KJ: Thanks very much for the interview and I hope to meet you next time I go to Java.

Abah: Baik pak ... OK sir ...see u in Bandung or metal fest in Java. :)

KJ note: Abah also gave me recommendations for the following Indo black-metal bands: "FALLENLIGHT is one of OSBM band (old-school black-metal)...their influence is mainly DARKTHRONE based, like BVRTAN. NOSFERATU is influenced by LIMBONIC ART".

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